Wave of bomb blasts kills 29 and injures 88 as Indian city targeted - Instablogs
Wave of bomb blasts kills 29 and injures 88 as Indian city targeted
G , Canberra: Jul 27 2008
Made Popular Jul 27 2008
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A wave of bombings left 29 people dead and 88 injured in the Indian city of Ahmedabad yesterday, prompting fears of renewed communal unrest. Up to 16 separate small bombs went off in several parts of the city, which has a history of violent clashes...
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
Violence will only beget more violence. My own opinion is that using religious justifications for what remain essentially political acts does little to raise *any* religion or interpretation-of-religion. These are surely political acts.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
Another article here on the same story:
At least 29 people killed in explosions in Indian city.
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R.M.Paulraj
Bangalore, India
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The death toll is now put at 45. A threat e-mail supposedly sent by a new terror organization has been traced to a house in navi Mumbai, a Mumbai suburb.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
Thankyou for that information and the photograph. I heard on the TV news that some organisation called Indian Mujahideen (?) has claimed responsibility.

Tragic.
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R.M.Paulraj
Bangalore, India
The terrorists have targeted two hospitals and the deaths here included two doctors and and a medical student. Dr. Parek Shah was killed with his pregnant wife. The deaths due to blasts in the hospitals alone - one of which is run by Pravin Togadia, the general Secretary of VHP, a Hindu fundamentalist organization - is about 18.

http://in.rediff.com/news/2008/jul/27ahd12.htm
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
This characterises terrorism, doesn’t it - in warfare (regular warfare) hospitals and medical supplies/staff/personnel are (generally and not intentionally) not attacked. Attacking a hospital is just outrageous.
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Gibson
Gwalior, India
Terrorists would not stop at anything. When they come from within the society from perfectly normal families without any criminal background it becomes all the more difficult to control. This is now a grown patter of how terrorists operate and strike. They are no longer illiterate poor people, but highly educated and from well-to-do families.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
As Oscar Wilde once said that: ”Some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing” we could perhaps equivocate that some people are well educated but are still fundamentally ignorant ? Terrorism is here to stay and all manner of people will become involved. Tragedy.
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Elias
Bombay, India
This is a dangerous trend. Till a few years back terrorists came from across the border from either Pakistan or Bangladesh. They were trained by the ISI. The disturbing fact is that now terrorists are from local societies. This is the beginning of the end of the Muslims in India should they don't do anything to stop their sons and daughters from carrying out such attacks. They should not forget post Godhra riots in Gujarat under the fascist government of Modi and Hindu nationalism is on the rise here. I am scared of the possible future scenario.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
Yes. I have heard some degree of compelling argument that the whole ”Taliban problem” was in some measure a brainchild of the ISI.

I fear that if non-muslims begin to hold grudges against (innocent) muslims for the crimes of the minority, things can degenerate into brutality and thoughtless recrimination very, very quickly. However, brutality is already afoot and the repercussions for your society and country can only be guessed at, at this point.
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Graeme,
India has become a safe haven for terrorists. There are no check-points. India’s borders are porous. It is easy to bribe and get in with arms. Also cities are hugely populated. No way to check who indulges in what kind of activities. There is no dearth of uneducated or educated unemployed youths who indulge in such activities or join some outfits for extra bucks often with blessings of local politicians or mafia.
I think money is bottomline for most local militant outfits though they work as extended arms of terrorist groups.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
Perhaps people may align themselves with a local militant group for money and perhaps with all the forethought of one who decides to support a new football team; this underlies that those who claim that they are killing innocents for religious-ideological reasons are really just making ultimately cold and empty political statements with their violence. Terrorism has become a means of brutal self-expression.

A related article:
The Ethical Iniquity of Suicide Attacks.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
Hey, I read it and I agree with what you say.
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R.M.Paulraj
Bangalore, India
The present spate of serial bomb blasts are carried out by a new terrorist organization that calls itself Indian Mujahideen. But, new terrorist organizations normally crop up from the base of already fully grown and standing organizations.

Extremist policies on the part of any one community is sure to lead to equally or harsher reactions from the other side.

The present bomb blasts are apparently a reaction to the illegal act of Shiv Sena activists who conducted a puja inside Taj Mahal (a Muslim mausoleum) before being arrested. They were released shortly later.

http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=138182&catID=2&category=India

About a fortnight ago, a Mosque in Bangalore was desecrated by allegedly unidentified Hindus who threw the severed head of a pig into it. (Muslims abhor pig as an unclean animal and do not eat its meat.)

http://www.twocircles.net/2008jul11/mosque_desecrated_communal_tension_bangalore.html

Hindus are generally very mature in their thoughts and understanding. But, there are groups among them that indulge in provocative and hate crimes. Being soft on provocative acts of such groups would not help anyone.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
Most (or at least many) human beings are (or can be) quite mature. In terms of the brutality of political violence, I am reminded of a classic book.
The Lord of the Flies” by William Golding, describes the way(s) in which a brutal and murderous potential lies just beneath the surface of any social group - there is more to it than that and it is specific to a specific fictional context but I feel that it is relevant. The order and seeming sophistication of our societies can so very, very quickly degenerate into vigilante mobs and murderous revenge.

”The Lord of the Flies” won a Nobel Prize for Literature. Political violence will win no prizes. I agree that being soft on such provocative acts will not be of much help, but simultaneously - one must be very careful not to begin a stampede of blind rage and retribution as some people just do not seem to be intellectually (or emotionally) equipped to understand what is (and what is not) appropriate in response to such acts of terror.
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Graeme,
I read ’Lord of the Flies’ when I was very young. I remember, I was nervous for days and wondered if there was hidden hatred and anger within me too which will burst some day.
Around same time there was regional conflict in Bombay. Non-Maharastrians were being targetted by Shiv Sena. My neighbour had commented casually,”Today I am having tea at your house, I don’t know what I’ll do if my party tells me to attack your house.”
I will never understand dynamics of human hatred for other human beings.
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I am scared of collective human pysche of ’mobs’ or ’terrorist groups’ who indulge in such mass killings and violent acts of abuse and torture. They are not normal human beings. Probably are systematically desensitised and taught only to hate.
But US strategy of countering terrorism with war is flawed. I don’t understand why US intelligencia can’t judge how worse matters will become for civilians who have always been ’soft targets’.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
I read somewhere of fundamentalism that:

Fundamentalism means not having to think. Fundamentalism means being unconscious.


All sides of this asymmetric warfare raging around the world as terrorism and it’s counterpoint - they all have their fundamentalist aspects.

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On countering terrorism (in all it’s forms):


Battle not with monsters
lest ye become a monster
and if you gaze into the abyss
the abyss gazes into you.

- Friedrich Nietzsche


Indeed.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
You said:

They are not normal human beings.


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I say:

Humanity is not normal. Terrorism, fundamentalism, warmongering, hatred, vigilantism, mob violence - these are all expressions of a humanity that has gotten lost somewhere along the way and stumbles and falls like some demented blind child wielding an axe viciously at anything it encounters. Humanity is, in this aspect and context of asymmetric warfare/terrorism and it’s repressive countermeasures, a mess. Terrorism is a normal expression of an unhealthy world.


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Perhaps...
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I agree with your observations. When and how will world become healthy?
We have to just stand back watch the descent into abyss...
There was terror attack at Istanbul a while ago...
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Although i do understand and agree with your fear of the mobs it is neither true nor appropriate, to my mind at least, to call them abnormal. If we follow your reasoning then similarly even ’we’ are systematically desensitised and taught to love. But i guess things are not as simple as that. It is as I am sure you would agree circumstantial growth of individual beings who then may become a part of a group indulging in anti-social activities. This again is a generalisation as even among these terrorists there are all kinds of individuals with their own understanding and motivations. But what is for sure is that such phenomenons could not be created without a market/human resource of honest feelings due to real or perceived injustice or misgivings. It is easy and also understandable for us to paint out a picture of them in accordance with our fears but it must have been a similar case for them at some point (at least some of them if not most). For the question to be answered is whether these people or any one for that matter would opt for this kind of life if they had a better life (both perceived and real).
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And i disagree with your observations on humanity as one important assumption in it is that humanity was better (more peaceful ,less prone to violence) earlier. It take more than a revision of our history i.e. the history of humanity to negate that assumption. Many of us tend to many a times make this assumption though un found. Perhaps it is the good old days syndrome. But believe me things have improved from the hunting cave man to the medieval invasions to the world wars and to the last few decades.
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...this was for Graeme.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
Hi Abhishek,

yeah, the world has never been all that safe or peaceful and it is a very simple matter indeed to fall into the trap of thinking of the idealised past as some notional Nirvana free from the troubles we see everywhere around us.

I don’t think humanity was ever any better, or for that matter - worse. These are qualitative delineations, themselves as bound by a time, a place and a cultural relativity of perspective.

I realise that generalisations are unfortunate and that it takes many different kinds of people to make up a group or social (or anti-social) movement. Generalisations, while painful, are necessary for communication to exist at all.

Terrorism, or perhaps terrorisms, is a very contemporary phenomena as the actual horror of the event(s) is multiplied by the media and other communications systems. War is, and has always been, a savage and bloody affair. Asymmetric warfare of the kind we see now is unique in that the effect of the event/act reaches globally at an unprecedented speed.

I think that one thing many governments are looking at (if not actually acting upon) is the notion that developing communities is one way pre-emptive way of alleviating the burden of terrorism. However, terrorism and it’s political means and ends have donned the clothing of religion and revolution in various parts of the world - muddying the waters of interpretation for the average underprivileged citizen.

I have no solutions or dictates. Just observations.

:)
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Fighting terrorism is like fighting an invisible killer. You see only destructions and footprints.
I don’t think there is any hope of ceasefire or peace negotiations in this war.
Terrorism and war on terror seem to be some flourishing business ventures.
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Megha
New Delhi, India
I guess, the perfect way of handling these terrorist attacks would be to bring ito force a very powerful anti-terrorism act, which can not only punish the criminal minds behind these heinuous crimes but can also present an example for the future terrorists! 16 blasts in a single day! Where is the world going! and what do these terrorists want?? That there should be no human being left in the world except them???
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R.M.Paulraj
Bangalore, India
No Acts, Laws, Rules, Legislations, etc. would help. They have not helped. Educating the people of the benefits of being good citizens of the countries they belong to and the moral depravity of being non-convinceable in matters of mutual safety and well-being may help.
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G emeraldsandash.blogs..
Canberra, Australia
If we respond to terrorism with extremely repressive counter-terrorist measures, I fear we shall do half the terrorists work of creating a more fearful society for them.
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